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Message posted by Ananda on 2003-Apr-02 at 16:01 - IP Logged
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Easy grow kit in Embargo for the USA
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Recently the USA took a new approach to enforcing some existing laws. This has drastic consequentes for companies and customers involved in mushroom grow kits, spores, mushroom grow tools and supplies. To protect our customers and because Sjamaan doesnot want to break any law in any country we no longer ship psilocybe grow kits and spore syringes to the US. Please click the links below for more info.
DEA and operation pipedreams
DEA and operation headhunter
DEA and psilocybe fanaticus
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We like to apologize for the long time that some of you had to wait for an answer to their mails and the long time some orders have been queued but not shipped. We felt we needed to look into this matter very carefully to take the right decision.
As you might have noticed on our site we have put our mushroom grow kit in the Embargo for the United States of America. This means that, unfortunately, it will not be possible anymore to order this product it from the states.
We have, in the last few months, experienced quite a few problems with sending our kits to the States, kits that were not arriving, kits that were extremely long on their way or got totally lost and kits that were confiscated by US Customs.
Recently, since the beginning of this year we have been receiving mails from some of our clients with the text of the letters they had received from customs.
This made us look carefully at the situation, and we have concluded that it would be irresponsible to our customers and to the company to continue shipping the easy cubensis and other mushroom kits to the US.
Customs declares the kits, which they describe as Psilocybin mushroom grow kit, (which in itself is strange, because nowhere on the kit is this mentioned), as "drug paraphernalia" as defined in 21U.S.C., sec.863(d).
At the same time we received some info from the US about a DEA some government action on shops and sites that were selling pipes and other head shop articles. All those kind of articles were also declared as "drug paraphernalia", and there is a law of 1990, or thereabouts, that talks about that.
Ban on everything?
"... The federal Crime Control Act of 1990 makes it a crime to "sell or offer for sale drug paraphernalia," a law that the Supreme Court upheld as constitutional in ... "
Considering all of the above we felt we had to take the step we did, and put the grow kit under embargo for the USA. We do very much regret that this is necessary, but we feel we have to protect our clients in this way, we do not want to be responsible for some of our customers to get into trouble because of this.
Mind you, we do not agree with this, because we think that this product should be available to anyone who has an interest and want to use it for educational and/or research purposes.
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Message posted by waveedavee on 2004-Nov-02 at 02:27 - IP Logged
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2004-Nov-02
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Hi,
Could an individual establish a partial year residence in Canada and receive shipments there? What's the legal status of the grow kits in our neighbor to the north?
Thanks,
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Message posted by Ananda on 2004-Nov-04 at 23:05 - IP Logged
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| Kits are legal in Canada. |
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Message posted by lamblance on 2004-Nov-28 at 18:01 - IP Logged
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2004-Nov-28
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hey
looks like alot of people will have to learn the pftek lol |
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Message posted by majesty on 2005-Feb-06 at 17:04 - IP Logged
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2005-Feb-05
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Again I wish to say f**k the drug laws and the pathetic and narrow-minded sons of bitches who impose them. Person after person lives on the street in poverty, scum can acquire a gun, can rape if they are a priest, can get away with murder if they are rich, can get out a jail even if they are a serial KILLER, etc, etc. But- smoke a joint or eat a f**king mushroom, oh, you're going DOWN. See, if you f**k up someone else, it's cool, but willingly put chemicals in your OWN BODY. well, that's a federal offence. See, the government lets everything else slide, but chooses drugs as the one thing to crack down on, to lull the public into thinking their tax dollars are doing something. It's called a false sense of security and I don't buy it for a minute. Never have. Never will. PEACE OUT.
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Message posted by smiley on 2005-Feb-06 at 17:21 - IP Logged
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Have you seen the documentry film called something , Grass the History of Marijuana... good stuff.
Ignorance is the cause of supressions, its why we have so many problems around the world.
But some drugs mainly made by man, should not even exist on this planet because it only ruins people and their surroundings, in everything and in every action there must be a balance. Addiction is not good and this counts for more than just drugs.
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Message posted by majesty on 2005-Feb-08 at 15:58 - IP Logged
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I could not agree more. I was referring to the laws against natural things such as mushrooms etc. Addiction is not good and it is due to overuse and abuse by others that we probably will never have the more liberal laws we desire which natural substances deserve. I like your point of view and way of wording things. An open mind is a gift. I can tell you have one. Take care, Smiley and I hope things work out for you.
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Message posted by smiley on 2005-Feb-08 at 16:25 - IP Logged
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All the same wishes to you.... 
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Message posted by RDZombie on 2005-Mar-10 at 00:47 - IP Logged
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2005-Mar-10
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| im in the US and im one of the most patriotic mo fos youve ever met, but as the years have gone by and ive had more time to think, the more i hate this f**k**g country, is there anything thats not illigal? im quickly becoming that crazy guy that locks himself up in a cabin in the woods to get away from uncle sam and his cronies. our news shows focus on how oppressed other countries are, we are just as oppressed we just dont realize it cus we dont get heads or limbs chopped off. but in the end for every law those "oppressed" nations have we have 20. they just happen to be poor. |
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Message posted by hippietrip on 2005-Apr-13 at 03:15 - IP Logged
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2005-Apr-13
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I'm also in the states(pacific northwest) and thinque the drug laws in this country are archiac, @ best!
Let some sanity happen, lord!!
3 more years of king George 2 go...
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Message posted by matto322 on 2005-Apr-30 at 16:44 - IP Logged
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2005-Apr-30
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I saw this conversation and had to put my two cents in. The fact is this bogus war on drugs is nothing more than the biggest scam this country has ever seen. It is a 100% fact that the CIA is the #1 drug smuggler in the United States. I have video of EX DEA agents talking about how their lives were ruined because they tried to bring down the CIA agents involved in drug smuggling. One agent was killed that discovered the operation. The other agent giving the lecture was shot at twice but managed to survive. He now lives in poverty because of the massive pressure they put on him. Prisions is big business in America, and they are building more and more prisions. You see America isnt America anymore, The New Corporate America would be more appropriate. This country that I love dearly is being run by a bunch of crimminals, soon you will see their next pre meditated terrorist attack which will be their end game for America. Their is a mountain of proof that our government pulled off the 911 attack, the Oklahome city bombing has CIA written all over it. You see as long as you own the media you can get away with mass murder easily. It amazes me that so many people in the general masses believe that jet fuel brought the buildings down. No steel building has ever collapsed due to fire in history, but we believe that 3 fell in one day. The government has dumbed down the masses quite efficently, simple facts of what occured defy logic. First of all jet fuel doesent burn hot enough to even weaken the steel at all, it would have to burn about 600 degrees hotter to even have the metal bend slightly. I also have video of fireman talking about how the buildings were blown out floor by floor, they also tried to make the firefighter tapes national security but the angry firemen leaked it out to the media. I have pictures of people standing in the holes the planes made on impact, you have to ask yourself this. How can a living person be standing in the impact area without being instantly burned to death? The firemen were stating that the fires were almost completely out before the buildings blew. I also have a video of an explosion coming from the base of the tower about 100 stories high, it was shown once and never aired again. I could go on and on because I feel I need to. If anyone wants to do some investigating for themselves email me and I will give you my username and password to a good website that has 34 movies in their documentary section. My email is matto322@cox.net, the link is www.prisionplanet.tv .
I am doing this to spread the word any way I can, I believe it is everyone's duty to do the same.
Good Luck & God Bless
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Message posted by utopia47 on 2005-Jun-17 at 23:09 - IP Logged
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2005-Jun-17
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I was under the impression that spores/grow kits were illegal only in GA., CA., possibly IN. and one or two other states. Is this not true, or do they consider the "grow bags" as paraphernalia? You could probably beat it as research material, after going through hell and high water. And thousands of dollars, probably. The most civilized country on earth, but we lock up the pot smokers, etc. and let the rapist,pedophiles,murderers go. How many people have
killed,raped,robbed a bank,killed children in a car wreck(hint,hint alcohol), shot or beat their mate, destroyed their livers, etc., etc., etc., while the lawmakers ham it up with martini's at $2500 a plate "benefits." Yes, benefiting who, I wonder? Anyway, IT SUX. The way the economy and crime is, take the drug market and money away from the thugs, warlords, etc. and tax the hell out of pot so everybody's happy. "Cept the Christian Coalition, and mind you I have nothing against religion. Just when they try to run my life like theirs and don't use common sense. Pissed and out!!!!!!
PS For folks like heroin users and coke heads, rehabilitation is cheaper than jail.
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Message posted by krunkfool987 on 2005-Jul-18 at 06:38 - IP Logged
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does any body else in the world just go out into cow fields and pick shrooms from cow sh*t and/or in the woods or is that just a texas thing?
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Message posted by dogdad on 2005-Jul-19 at 07:27 - IP Logged
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I used to a long, long time ago up here in Oklahoma. Thought it was the way the Great Spirit meant it to be. If you found some, then it was ok and meant to be. Then I read once that a truely wise Indian could be known if he could, when finding a cowpie mushroom, grind it up between the palms of his hand and walk away. I did it once and never looked back. I learned all I could and needed to move on with life. There are just too many more important things to do than to get too serious about these things.
But if you do them, be very serious. Peace to ya'll.
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Message posted by Sha-manic on 2005-Jul-22 at 15:19 - IP Logged
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Quote: do they consider the "grow bags" as paraphernalia?
Yes they do, and they are actively procecuting people who sell or buy such 'paraphernalia'. We do not want to put our customers at risk, so that's why we stopped shipping kits to the US in april 2002. I know it's a shame, but there's nothing to do about it.
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You can order Magic Truffles & Shrooms, Ready to Grow Mushroom Kits, Psychedelic Cacti, Salvia Divinorum, Cannabis Alternative and Herbal Ecstasy at: www.sjamaan.com |
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Quote: Originally posted by RDZombie on 2005-Mar-10
im in the US and im one of the most patriotic mo fos youve ever met, but as the years have gone by and ive had more time to think, the more i hate this f**k**g country, is there anything thats not illigal? im quickly becoming that crazy guy that locks himself up in a cabin in the woods to get away from uncle sam and his cronies. our news shows focus on how oppressed other countries are, we are just as oppressed we just dont realize it cus we dont get heads or limbs chopped off. but in the end for every law those "oppressed" nations have we have 20. they just happen to be poor.
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I think 2Pac says it best when he says "can't a brother get a little peace? there's war on the streets and there's war in the Middle East, instead of a war on poverty, they got a war on drugs so the police can bother me"
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Message posted by rome on 2005-Sep-08 at 11:23 - IP Logged
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| Ok...samuell jackson, you are a guy who seem damn funny man, and i do have to agree with you on the Tu Pac statment. He was a thinking man also i believe. Matto322, i think what you have to say in interesting and i would like more info on those things you had shared. although im not a consiricy theory kinda guy, i do agree that the government is behind a lot of things that if it were brought to the american peoples attention, we would rise up and look for some kind of change. you can e-mail me at romyrome7@yahoo.com |
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| ok, now about shrooms and drugs in general. You might just look past the words in this box if you read some of the other things i had previously written, but if you continue to read on i think you'll be surprised to read what i have to say about drugs..to Win this "war on drugs". a statment that is almost as common as the brand name Nike. There is no war. The money is probalbly diverted into areas that would benifit the govenment or personaly benifit certin people in the government anyway. lining their own pokets with the money that can be made in the drug industry making a killin by making sure the only drugs we can use are the ones approved by the FDA, and now preventing easy mushroom grow kits to be imported from other countries, because it "could" led to illigal mushroom growing, How STUPID is that! if i applied that same principal to leaving the house, i would never leave, because i "could" "mabey" do something illigal. And i do think there are some good rules in palce regarding drugs, but the natual drugs...pot, shrooms, cocain in leaf form, i mean come on! its Natural! WAIT!...if i continue, ill totaly fill a few pages, there is so much to say and as i read the postings b4 mine i see each of us has mentioned some government problem or another, and as far as shrooms and weed go, I say GO FOR IT!, its your choice, God loves you either way! i think after reading the bible and being a christian for 5 years now, i can say with surity- jesus christ just wants the best for your body, he's not going to send you to hell because you put something in your body, he'd rather you didnt do those things because they can be harmful, but as i read in the bible the only thing that can guarentee me place in hell is if i dont accept the offer to go to heaven. We do that by not belive'n that we are forgiven and wiped clear of all our wrong by Jesus when he died for our sins. Salvation is easy just ask, read your bible for info, and if ya wanna talk to Him just pray. And remember...God loves you for who you are, even the worst part of us, he proved it by dying for us and raising again to provide a way to heaven for man kind. you tell me of another guru or spiritual leader that would or had done such a thing. |
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Message posted by TrANcE on 2005-Sep-21 at 16:24 - IP Logged
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The USA bans the use of drugs because it is 200% profit for them. Why legalize it when at least 1/3 of Americans use some sort of drug, when they can just go out on the streets, make a few drug busts, fine the people who posess them, "confiscate" the drug at no cost, and sell the same bag for some more cash. Our government doesn't care about the people anymore. They care about money, power, ownership, and pocketing our tax dollars. We pretty much work for them. Where else do you think their nice fat paychecks come from. It doesn't come from no where. The best thing Bush did in his presidency was allow the sale of automatic weapons. Best solution to legalize drugs in our lifetime in this country is to see the reality of this topic, and at least make an effort in communities all across the country to abolish taxes, and flood the courts with legalizing the use of drugs legal or illegal. My reason for believing a large portion of their money funds comes from taxes, and drugs is Canada recently offered us incredibly cheap prescription medications, but government turned it down. Why does it make sense to pay more, when you can get the same thing in from another country a lot cheaper. Because it doesnt help them get any richer when they can't sell a 5 cent pill at 50 times more than that. Lastly, STOP FIGHTING FOR "LEGAL POT" FOR CANCER PATIENTS through the government. It's pointless. Their sh*t is run through a very thorough processing procedure, and consists of lots of stems and seeds. Just grade F crap. Besides, it doesn't benefit the other 90% of its users who use it for self satisfaction. Fighting for legalisation is one thing, but if it's done, it'll only be worth it if the sale of it was legal through home growers/plantations rather than the money grubbing bastards themselves. Besides, I should be able to pick my own buds in privacy, rather than have to go to a store and walk out with a quarter pound, and stumble across my boss on the way out.
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Just so you all know, ive posted (most of) this on my myspace. Im glad to finnally find ppl that think like i do.
And as for the pertial canadian residence, idk if that would work mate. Even if you did set up some address up there, the problem would still be getting it back in through customs, although, i know that they are more lax at the northern boarder.
If you get that idea working, let us know. I live in the states too.
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is any one out there from indiana?
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If i live in the U$ and purchase a grow kit in the US do i have to worry with customs not being involved
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would i be hasseled for buying a kit from Canada?
also the spores are legal in oregon, would kits be easier to get there.
I JUST WANNA GROW MY OWN SHROOMS!!!! |
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